Saber Marionette Cherry & Lime relationship. Mother/daughter?

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  1. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    Hi. Just wanted to express a thought that came to my mind.

    Have you noticed that since Cherry is bearing motherhood... and Lime innocence (childhood), They would be a very good couple as mother/daughter?

    Well maybe Lime won't answer Cherry's feelings towards her... since Lime has many friends - Yumeji, ponta, not to mention of course, Otaru (and Lorelei as her mom, in my fics).

    But Cherry is kinda predestinated to fall in love (as mother) with Lime, don''t you think? i.e. smiling as she watches Lime play with pontas...

    OK who wants to explore this possibility?
     
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  2. Lime

    Lime Claude ish MY honey ^.^

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    Well lets see..Of course, I think that Bloodberry and Lime is a great sister/sister type of thing. As well as Cherry would be a very good wife/mother. Either way you want to look at it! :D
     
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  3. Izzy

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    I can honestly see Cherry as a mother figure very easily. It's just her way of doing things...always the little things a mother does.

    And Lime, she looks up to everyone, and everyone is a role model to her. So...yeah, very possible.
     
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  4. BakaMattSu

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    A very strange scenario...even though they have the traits, circumstances would have to have been different for it to happen... But I guess it could work, Cherry having the Maternal Otome Kairo, and Lime having the Innocent one...
     
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  5. Sachiko

    Sachiko happy SMJ shoujo ^_^

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    This is one to think about: What about Cherry/Bloodberry???
     
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  6. Izzy

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    I'd say halfway between rivalry, sisterly, and mother to adolescent teenager. An amalgamation of the three.

    Although, I'm probably way off in that assumption.
     
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  7. luvweaver

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    Well of course. The circumstances change things.

    But frankly i've seen very little of motherly in Cherry's character (specially SMJ where her personality is not fully developed yet).

    She just knows how to cook, but what's that of being motherly? Anyway...

    Yes, there is a huge rivalry between Lime and Cherry. Specially because Lime is so emotionally dependant on Otaru, so she might be bitter at Cherry for trying to break them apart (i explored this on "in search of true love", chapter 6).

    The rivalry with Bloodberry is not as hard, because (apparently) Bloodberry just wants sex. But Cherry is going for the emotional love of Otaru. Anyway this problem is solved in J to X, where Bloodberry falls for Akashi. Or is it? :anime:

    My solution was making Otaru their dad so they stop fighting for him. Then they have free way to start developing mother/daughter love. (i explore this on "corruption" chapters 3 and 8).

    So, while Cherry loves Lime as her daughter, Lime has a difficult time accepting this. But knowing this she cares and loves more Cherry... as sister.

    About BBerry/Lime relationship? I find that kinda difficult. I can see Bloodberry getting bored when Lime plays with her ponta friends. Since Bloodberry is much more mature than Lime.

    So Lime would be Bloodberry's little sister. I see more of a relationship between Bloodberry and Cherry. Yes, they would be very close sisters, specially because they talk of the same topics (love... sex... :D motherhood... I also explore this in my fics.

    Well... cya l8r guys!



    More to come soon!
     
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  8. Lime

    Lime Claude ish MY honey ^.^

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    Hmmmm...Bloodberry and Cherry..It's kinda hard.

    They never really got to close or sisterly at all..but when ya think about it, they all seem like sisters!! :)

    Luvweaver writes a lot!!! :D
     
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  9. That guy!

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    Well Cherry does have the Motherly otome, and Lime the Innocent. Although I see them all as triplet sisters, and they all split up the characteristic of one woman. But Cherry would be the older sister who has grown up more than the others, Lime would be the youngest, and Bloodberry would be in between and kind of a tomboy sister. The thing I don't understand is that Lime is the most mature out of all of them... but she is the most childish. I guess SMJ show's that no matter what personality a person has, maturity comes from being able to love.
     
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  10. Chibi Meg

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    I always saw Bloodberry as the oldest for some reason. But yeah I never really saw the Cherry - Lime relationship as a mother daughter one.
    oro which circuit does Bloodberry have then if Cherry has the motherly one and Lime has innocent? o_O
     
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  11. luvweaver

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    relationships

    Well we have to take into account one thing

    The _ONLY_ reason for the marionettes to fight against each other is Otaru. Now think what would happen if each of the marionettes didn't want to keep otaru for herself?

    Things will definitely change. Think about this. Most of the time, the marionettes are focused on ONE thing: Otaru. UNLESS something else happens that threatens one of the three. But despites that, they don't give a #&@*%^ for each other. Man, they're supposed to be SISTERS!

    I mean - in the series, has Cherry ever gone along with Lime to watch her play with her ponta friends? Have Bloodberry and Cherry spoken about being in love (in this case, Akashi)? Imagine Lime and Bloodberry helping Cherry take care of Kotaru (the little baby). Hey, that would be a nice fic!

    So, more ideas... the marionettes going to visit Lorelei to help her not feeling lonely...

    Lorelei teaching Lime about life... (Ok she's not a marionette but plays an important role).

    Anyway my point is. In all the series, the marionettes have one main focus: Otaru. And they (almost) never stop to focus on each other. This is what i didn't like. So... i started writing.

    So... once we remove the "fighting over Otaru" obstacle, things change. Oh yes! *cracks knuckles* woohoo... time to write!

    About Bloodberry... she has the "virtue" circuit. Now i wonder what that word means, but knowing Bloodberry, it's easy to guess that virtue means sensuality.

    And yes, Maturity has nothing to do with being or not being childish. Maturity is about wisdom... knowing to do always the right thing. OH! I forgot to say one very important thing (may have its own thread). Lime's innocence has gone so much beyond the programming. I mean, after all that she suffered and went thru in the series - seeing Tiger die, losing her friends (squirrely, the saber dolls, marine - not to mention grampa Shogun), being kidnapped by sensei Obiichi, being guilty of (won't say - spoilers)... and of course, the constant fear of losing Otaru's love.

    If Lime could keep her innocence after all of this, i mean, there has to be some higher power to keep her that way!

    In any case...

    let's explore further the (possible) relationships between these 3 little sisters. Shall we?
     
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  12. DrunkLeprachaun

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    sure do write a lot...

    Erm, just thought I'd correct you there. Virtue has absolutly nothing to do with sensuality at all(sometimes it means the exact opposite). It's most likely meaning in this context is bravery and valiancey.
     
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  13. chupito

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    *-*!

    I agree, I think cherry is the mother, you know after all she always act like one<remember that episode when she has the baby and blablabla> to me this is profe number one! She really as a mother that episode, I think if she needde to die to save the baby I'm sure she would give her life without thinking twice! Anyways this is what I think!:D
    Hugs to everyone!
     
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  14. Sachiko

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    really neat posts~

    Now I'll put my opinion down. ^_^

    Lime/Cherry - I think Cherry treats Lime like a sister, but to the point where it's almost like a mother. Now what do I mean? Well, remember in ep 4 when Cherry and Otaru went out to sell candy, Cherry told Lime not to go with them and watch the house? I'd say that's a mother-ish sister-ish act. Though of course, I think it's more on the sisterly side.

    Cherry/Bloodberry - sisters. Both are more mature than Lime, so obviously they have more in common to talk about, like what luvweaver said. They disgust more important matters together, such as in JtoX ep 14, when they talked about Otaru trying to be "equal" with all of them. Though you know, I still couldn't describe their relationship. Does Cherry act older or does Bloodberry act older? hmm...

    Bloodberry/Lime - now this is easy. Older sister and younger sister! Remember when Lime used the money Otaru gave her to buy a lottery ticket? Then Bloodberry defended Lime? I say that's sisterly. Remember when Cherry and Bloodberry went to check if Lime were aboard on the train in JtoX ep 14, Bloodberry played around with Lime by the neck and strangled her? Sisterly. Back to J. And remember when Bloodberry pushed Lime out and allow herself to be trapped inside the building with Lepeard? Sisterly. Wel, you get the picture.
     
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  15. luvweaver

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    Oh wow...

    Sachiko, you really got an A on this!

    I hadn't thought of those little details!

    Oh speaking about Cherry/Lime, i'm uploading the "corruption" chapters on fanfiction.net where we can see more of their relationship. Includes a scene in the park/fair with Lorelei!
     
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