Naruto Naruto not so alone?

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  1. Yugi_Boy

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    It's another thing to point out (I have lots of 'em, mostly stuff that no one cares about ^__^').

    Well, in the first chapters in the manga we see Naruto seemingly all alone, right? He was sitting in a swing of some sort and being all sad and stuff...

    But yet, when Sakura and Sasuke where introduced, Naruto seemed your normal (annoying) student. One kid even talked to him. Wha? I thought no one talked to him or nothing. Plus Sakura seemed to talk (or shout) to him, not in a friendly way, but still the conversation is there.

    What's worse, when they were taking the Chuunin exam, we were introduced to more characters, and they all seem to talk to him (again annoyingly, but it's still there). Examples are Shikamaru and Choji.

    (This message is getting kinda long). Most importantly we have Hinata. She is in love with Naruto, right? She talks to him too. In a friendly way too. So why does he seemed all alone when there are all these people he can talk to? I guess Kishimoto sensei thought all these characters up a little later on (plus it'd be boring if they all aren't there). :bleed2:
     
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  2. Izzy

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    There could be that.

    Also, you have to think that all the kids treat Naruto rather disdainfully. All the parents treat Naruto like he's an outcast (which he rather is, in a badass kind of way), so the children treat him as such as well. "The Sins of the Father are Passed Unto the Son", so to speak.

    He's also FAILED his first exams two years in a row. Making it easy to think that he didn't actually have anyone in his class to be friends WITH. Which is odd too, because I didn't see Kiba in there. ^____^

    Also, in support of your idea, that would mean either Sasuke or Sakura (or everyone, really) would have also failed their first 2 exams. Or Naruto would be older than everyone, if all ninja-in-training start off at the same age.

    But, like, yeah. The story progresses, and you're introduced to more and more. Which makes sense. Kishimoto is a writer, and Naruto probably got extended much the same way Dragon Ball Z did, because of "fan"-atical fans.

    Though...it's a GREAT series. Unlike DBZ, IMHO.
     
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  3. Yugi_Boy

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    Oh yea. I forgot the fact that he had failed for two years. Which probably means he gets new classmates each year.

    What I'm really just trying to say is that Naruto isn't so alone as we all thought when we read the first few chapters. Right?

    PS Yea it is great. I really love this series. So such petty details isn't important. I just wanted to make a conversation. ^___^
     
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  4. Izzy

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    Another wierd discrepancy I found was that Neji was held back for two years, roughly making him a bit older by comparison to everybody else.

    But, Naruto's roughly the SAME age as everyone else...meaning the two years he spent failing was actually ahead of others???

    But...why? o_O??
     
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    I'm really confused with that age and failing point.. weird?! he did fail, but then did everyone else too then? he's the same age as the prodigies that were in the class he passed.... so is this some sort of discrepancy? I usually don't read much into animes I watch.. but this is odd. and I have no head for it right now.

    as far as the 'not alone' bit. First was Iruka being there for him, even though the demon fox killed his parents. he realized Naruto wasnt the demon. the whole alone vs. not alone issue came through the Gaara vs. Naruto. How Naruto could have been if he didnt have his friends. He was once like Gaara.. but now Gaara may change, even though he has a whacko 'funky' devil that possesses him and eats his personality away. He has his siblings who seem to care now.. >_<
     
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  6. Miko

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    in my opinion, just because naruto has other people around him doesnt mean that he's not alone. one can be in a room full of people and still be alone.
     
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  7. Yugi_Boy

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    Very nice. I guess that's right.

    But what do you guys think about Hinata? Why do you think she doesn't approach Naruto? Doesn't it pain her to see Naruto all sad and stuff?

    Umm... I haven't watched the Naruto and Gaara fight yet. I'll check it out with this info in mind.

    About the age, I guess Kishimoto-sensei got his notes all jumbled up or something. Maybe Naruto was super-smart at one point so he was able to be ahead by everyone else for two years then he hit his head or something... then again... nah... ^__^
     
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  8. Miko

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    maybe you can take the test more than once a year. kinda like if you dont do well your first time on the ACT or SAT, you can take it again the same year if you want.
     
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  10. Yugi_Boy

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    It is also maybe that she thought that he wasn't really affected by the fact that everyone ignores him. She always see him as strong after all.

    PS Sorry if it is a little off track but, while I was browsing the forums I noticed the ads in this place. They sell Naruto headbands? Anyone bought one of those? Is it cool? A little expensive though. Maybe they sell a copy of "Come Come Paradise" as well... :anime:
     
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    Maybe because naruto was alone as a kid the hokage made him go to school early so he could learn at teh same time as being looked after which is why he went to school earlier and had a chance to fail 2 times and still be at same age as the others
     
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  12. UFOtaku

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    Actually, although he failed, he stays with the same classmates- the schooling system in the valley is different from what you and I are used to, you see.

    For however many years one must attend a school, there are no grades- only ranks. And surpassing one rank takes much longer than one year.

    People fail alot. Someone has to fail. But that dosen't mean you're "held back" in the sense that we are. It just means you can try again to reach your next rank. The year when we join Naruto is the year that his little group is actually reaching graduation.

    Okay- so let me make a little more sense: ^^;
    You know how Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura are in a cell right now? They may fail sometimes, but it dosen't matter, since to actually advance, they must pass the Chůnin exam, ya? At ninja school, you just study and take tests, all leading up to one final test. The final test is what really matters when it comes to passing.

    Remember how Kakashi graduated MUCH earlier than the rest? It's all rank; regardless of age.

    So, for however many years one must attend a school, there are no grades- only ranks. And surpassing one rank takes much longer than one year.
     
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  13. UFOtaku

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    "Come Come Paradise"? Isn't is "Make Out Paradise"? *laughs* Ah, stupid translations. ^_^ It's an actual book series, though. o_0 Not exactly rated G.

    Yeah, they sell headbands. They're pretty cheap quality-wise. Don't show up at a con wearing one. ^_^ I dunno where you might be buying from, however. I know one shop, the most popular one here in the U.S. It sucks like a little red toilet sucker thing.
     
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  14. Yugi_Boy

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    "Make Out Paradise" huh? That sounds cool. A little too obvious though. ^__^
    "Come Come Paradise" is an actual series?!?!? Is that true? Who made it then?

    Anyway, I saw them ads right here in mangatoanime. And they sell for a whopping, unhumanely 29.95 bucks. And even then it's no good? Hahaha, I wonder what the good ones sell for.
     
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    Here's another thing, but unrelated to Naruto himself. Rock Lee passed and became a Genin, no? Then how did he pass the test in the first place? I mean, he had no ability in Gen and Ninjutsu, so did he luck out during the test and had to perform a certain Taijutsu?

    It just struck me as odd that he passed the Genin test...
     
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  16. yakamashi

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    oh my god... that was so sad. but anyway, yeah, he becomes a normal kid. exept for the fact that he has the kitsune in him... but actually, he wasn't really alone. you know? even though people may not like him, or they may even hate his guts. they're just.... stuck with him. he's a member of the konoha family. if not, then... well, there's always sarutobi. like he said something like... "even though we all might not be related by blood, you're all my precious, precious family members!" or something like that.
     
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    You have a point there, although not many people like him, his family really cares about him, need I say more?
     
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    the reason that the students talk to him anoyanly (if i remember right) was that the parents try to teach there children to stay away from him but the kids dont know hes the kitsune(nine taled demon fox) because the elders are forbiden to mention it, naruto didnt even know himslef at first
     
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    The main reason for this, is that Naruto the manga probably exploded with fame. The fact that it did, forced Kishimoto to draw in more characters.

    Also, the fact that Naruto had to EARN most of their respect and was treated rather harshly augmented the fact that Naruto thought and felt and looked like he was alone. That doesn't mean that people didn't talk to him, it just means that people looked down on him.

    Looking back on it, every time Naruto fought one of the other Leafs, he gained their respect, and thus, their friendship.

    What also bolsters Naruto's loneliness is that he has no parental figures, and no one to go home to. Even if he does have friends/rivals, I'm pretty sure that he'd still feel and look like he was alone, especially when so many others disdain him, until he became a better Ninja.

    That, in turn, fuels his drive to become Hokage even more. He has seen that the better he is at being a Ninja, at protecting Konoha, he earns more people's respect. The more he fights, the more friends he makes. Thus, he isn't so alone *anymore*, because he's already been through so much, and now people respect him more for that.

    Then, Hinata. Hinata never really talks, thus, doesn't really count as a "friend" of Naruto's. I mean, sure, they're friends, but her shyness wouldn't REALLY help his loneliness, especially with all the evidence of her not doing anything about her crush, nor just going up to him. Naruto's referal to Hinata as "Hinata-chan" bolsters the fact that Naruto tries to be overly-friendly in order to make up for his soltitude.

    ....Of course, this is just quick speculation on my part, and it doesn't really explain why all adults (no matter where) all of a sudden don't mind the Kyuubi eating from their ramen stands or letting him stay at their hotels and what not....

    Unless only a very small select few know about it...but, who'd forget a kid with that much shockinly blond hair?
     
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  20. Jam Chii

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    Kitsune...? I could have sworn it was "Kyuubi" or something like that....
     
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